Join The National Protest Against Prop 8
If you've been watching our brothers and sisters protesting the passage of Prop 8 in California wishing that there was something you could do to help, there is: A group called Join The Impact is planning a national protest against Prop 8, organizing simultaneous rallies on the steps of city halls all over the country from Mobile, Alabama to Laramie, Wyoming on Saturday, Nov. 15 at 10:30 a.m. PST/1:30 p.m. EST.
Update: Shepard Fairey, who designed the famous Obama "Hope" poster, has created a fierce new image for the National Day of Protest. Download your own PDF copy here.
While the passage of Prop 8 is getting the most press, it should be noted that this protest is also being held to rally against Arizona's Prop 102 and Florida's Prop 2, both of which banned gay marriage, as well as the Arkansas Adoption Ban, which prevents unwed couples from adopting children.
Visit Jointheimpact.com to find the protest nearest you, and if you don't see your city listed, round up a few friends to serve as organizers, and ask the group to add it to the list.
Citing the Stonewall Riots of 1969, which marked the birth of the gay rights movement, Join The Impact urges us all to come together again to show the nation that we are "one loud voice that needs to be heard."
"We won’t solve everything in one protest, but we will fuel the fire to a conversation that can not be silenced! If we stop talking about equality for all, then we will lose the battle. If we allow others to stop talking about it, then we will lose. Hate is not the lack of love, it’s the fear of that which we do not know. This protest along with many others gives us the chance to build on the conversation and educate the masses," a statement on the site reads. "It’s very simple: Infiltrate, Educate, and STOP HATE!"
I'm in. How about you? We need to show the rest of America we are tired of being treated like second-class citizens.
Hey just Like Obama won the election, because the " Majority" has spoken, same also with Prop 8, prop 2, etc etc etc, live with it
the vast majority of AMERICANS has said NO.
Posted by: ShyBi | November 10, 2008 at 12:23 PM
What is wrong with you? The reason we have a constitution is to protect the civil rights of our citizens from mob rule. If civil rights were put up to a simple majority vote we would still have segregation in this country.
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Posted by: polo | November 10, 2008 at 12:45 PM
I will be here in Duluth, Minnesota; downtown on our city hall steps. Even though many (if not most) of us are not in relationships that won't result in marriage today or ever; it's important for us to recognize that there are gay people who do need these protections, who deserve the same rights - I'm not specifically talking religious - but spousal visitation, survivor benefits, the legal aspects of our relationships.
Gay relationships are in real trouble. The more avenues we have to meet each other on the internet, etc the shorter they seem to last. We have to start caring what happens to other gay people, and also what happens to us. Marriage gives a lot of us a reason to try, to feel motivated, to believe that maybe we could be a part of this also. It's not fair to allow these people who voted against us to get away with it. Considering that the majority of those communities don't even get marriage and father's day is actually a day of confusion. What hypocrites. I'm tired of playing nice with certain people because obviously we aren't 'all in this together'.
If they want to pull this moral bullshit on us, then hey, let's work on another cause: let's outlaw divorce - no exceptions. If they're so bent on living God's word, then they should take those vows to their graves 'til death do you part'. No divorces, even in cases of domestic violence. Nobody cares when it happens in our relationships, why should we care if it happens in theirs? Straight people need to understand exactly how it feels to be in our situation with no protections, no 'battered spouses shelters', no supportive housing, nothing.
Posted by: Jonathan | November 10, 2008 at 01:20 PM
Attention:
Here is a listing of People whom Donations to Mormons for Prop 8.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pe2023SzWXxE8wYX5qWeoIw
Please check your state and city and call or write the people from the list and tell then you will not be patronizing their business. Because of there support to Prop 8. You will have to do a google search but you will be able to find their address, and phone numbers.
Posted by: Tom | November 10, 2008 at 02:12 PM
We only have ourselves to blame and the buck stops with us. The gay community has to decide between gay marriage and indoctrinating kindergartners. We need to stay out of the schools, quit letting the far left make our decisions, and act like adults. When we do, the 'majority' will vote for the right to marry. Period!
Posted by: Scott | November 10, 2008 at 04:25 PM
I wish I could but I can't becuae I am on call for work. DAMN it I really wanted to go.
Posted by: Silas | November 10, 2008 at 04:30 PM
Why I am not surprised a Republican coming to our defense! Don't hold your breath waiting for Hussein Osama to open his mouth now that he is done using us. Hasn't the lessons of his spiritual leader Jeremiah Wright and his grandmother taught anybody anything?
Posted by: Me | November 10, 2008 at 04:42 PM
What is wrong with you ShyBi?? And why should the Majority of a population have the say so of the Minority? I am sure that inter-racial marriage was banned and when it was passed that a lot of people didn't like it, but you know what? It didn't matter because they recognized that it was their RIGHT to Marry. Just like it is EVERY Gay and Lesbians RIGHT to Marry. It's a Violation of Civil Rights to Deny Marriage and the sooner that this country gets it's head out the stone-ages and realizes that, the better off we will be!!!
Posted by: Mike | November 10, 2008 at 05:30 PM
Why are the gays targeting just white conversative churches and not black churches? 70% of blacks voted yes on prop 8, that's a very high percentage vs. the rest of the nation. Is it because it's not politically correct to speak up about a n y t h i n g blacks do?
Posted by: Rex | November 10, 2008 at 05:32 PM
We only have ourselves to blame and the buck stops with us. The gay community has to decide between gay marriage and indoctrinating kindergartners. We need to stay out of the schools, quit letting the far left make our decisions, and act like adults. When we do, the 'majority' will vote for the right to marry. Period!
GOOD POINT, BUT THE LIBERALS HAVE BEEN INDOCTRINATING OUR KIDS AND COLLEGE STUDENTS FOR DECADES, THE BOOKS THEY USED HAVE LIBERAL SLANTS INCLUDING U.S. HISTORY BOOKS! EX. GORBACHEV GETTING CREDIT FOR ENDING THE COLD WAR/BERLIN WALL INSTEAD OF REAGAN. F.D.R. BOMBING JAPAN "TO SHOW THE RUSSIANS HOW POWERFUL WE ARE" VS. THE TRUE REASON: THE JAPANESE REFUSED TO END THE WAR AND PULL OUT OF OCCUPIED TERRITORIES--EVER HEAR OF THE KAMAKAZI? THEY WERE EXACTLY LIKE THE AL-QUEDA / PALESTINIAN SUICIDE BOMBERS... IF PROP 8 HADN'T PASSED WE'D BE TEACHING OUR KIDS ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE IN PRIMARY ALONG WITH HOW TO MASTURBATE/USE A CONDOM. STOP BLAMING THE REPUBLICANS FOR YOUR WOES PEOPLE WHEN YOU'VE GOT A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING AMONG YOU IN YOUR OWN DEMOCRATIC PARTY! OBAMA BIN LYIN' WILL NOT HELP YOU, HE WILL ONLY MAKE THINGS WORSE...
Posted by: Rex | November 10, 2008 at 05:40 PM
Causes are not won because someone or "ones" is/are highly vocal. Change is effected by people bonding together in a cause and fighting TOGETHER for that cause.
There has to be a purpose for the cause and the willingness within the group to work TOGETHER to attain the goal. don't get me wrong, I am 250% in favor of same sex marriage, but I do feel that there is not currently enough unity within the gay community to warrant such a change in society.
I know I have always gone against the grain. I have always believed that there is an order to everything, and a way to do anything…somewhat of a NONconformist, if you will. I have several beliefs that some might call radical, while others call them bitter. Either way, they are mine, and part of the beauty of living in this country is that one can believe anything he/she likes, for that is what freedom is all about.
For instance….
I believe that all men and women are created equal. Yes there are different colors, different economic backgrounds, different professions, different hair color, eye color, skin color, but we are all STILL human, just as there are different makes and models and colors of cars yet they are STILL cars. So WHY is it (if we are all human to begin with) that we feel the need to treat each other differently? Why do we feel the need to improve our self image by making others feel as badly about themselves as possible? Why is it not possible for us to look outside the “mirror” to what may be outside?
I believe that everyone has the right to happiness…
I believe everyone has the right to be treated with respect…
I believe that everyone has the right to love whomever they wish, and the right to express that love however they wish.
I believe that everyone has the right to live their lives and be who they are without being made to feel as if they are second class citizens or less than simply because they don’t wear the same hair style or the same clothes or listen to the same music, for we never know when we might meet the most important person of our lives.
AND….
I believe the only way we are EVER going to pass a gay marriage bill is for the gay community to band together and WORK for it.
As tragic as it was, the one most important thing about the civil rights movement was UNITY. The people united in a single cause and proceeded to see it through to the end. They came together in support of their cause. I am sure they didn’t all like each other. I am positive that they didn’t all dress alike or work in the same professions, or live in the same neighborhoods. They didn’t all listen to the same music or watch the same movies or TV shows. They didn’t have the same friends or relatives or drive the same cars. They were each individuals who pulled together (much the same as ingredients in cake batter) mixed it up (for everyone has something to offer) and began to make a cake called civil rights. They didn’t have time to only speak to those who fit into a certain age group, or ONLKY go to restaurants that were “black friendly”, they didn’t make it a point to push themselves onto anyone else as if they were victims. Rather, they attempted to show the world that they were as good as anyone else. That they were EQUAL. The ONLY way they could do that was to BE equal. You see, the civil rights movement was not about being black, it was about being fair. We are going to have to remember that first and foremost WE ARE PEOPLE! We have to learn to stop segregating ourselves as GAY people and learn to be apart of society as PEOPLE. There is already enough division in this country and we don’t need to perpetuate it by separating ourselves and making it a point to be so completely different as if the world owes us special treatment because we are gay.
I don’t believe there will ever be a same-sex marriage bill passed until gays and lesbians can learn to treat EACH OTHER with respect FIRST. I think that while we are doing our stints in the mirror, we need to realize that we are NOT victims and the world owes us absolutely nothing just because we are here….
I refer to---THE STAPLE SINGERS—RESPECT YOURSELF
“If you disrespect anybody that you run in to
How in the world do you think anybody's s'posed to respect you
If you don't give a heck 'bout the man with the bible in his hand
Just get out the way, and let the gentleman do his thing
You the kind of gentleman that want everything your way
Take the sheet off your face, boy, it's a brand new day
Respect yourself, respect yourself
If you don't respect yourself
Ain't nobody gonna give a good cahoot, na na na na
Respect yourself, respect yourself
If you're walking 'round think'n that the world owes you something cause
You're here you goin' out the world backwards like you did when you first come here
You keep talkin’ bout the president and wanna stop air pollution
Put your hand on your mouth when you cough, that'll help the solution
Oh, you cuss around women and you don't even know their names and you
Dumb enough to think that'll make you a big ol man
Respect yourself”
My point is that until we learn to respect ourselves and EACH OTHER as gay Americans, we don’t have the right to demand OR expect respect from anyone else. Until we can see that we don’t have to want to be with someone in order to say hello…until we can see that we can learn something from everyone we meet (not just those who look like us or act like us or are the same age as us or the same color, etc, etc)…until we can come together to present a UNITED FRONT, we will NEVER pass a same-sex marriage bill. You see, it is one thing to talk about the civil rights movement, but it is another thing altogether to live it…to practice it in our daily lives, for it is not a drag show, it is LIFE!
Posted by: ....on prop 8 | November 10, 2008 at 06:00 PM
Hold your horses fellas, ShyBi makes a valid point. Yes the majority did vote for discrimination, now Democracy takes it other courses. The courts, protests, law suits. It's all part of the tapestry of Democracy. Each act is part of the greater process. If you're upset that we're challenging the majority, we're well with out rights to do so. And THAT right CAN'T be voted away!
SO DEMAND equal civil rights and when YOUR state moves in the direction of EQUALITY, GET INVOLVED.
...on Prop 8, you're comments are understood by everyone, but you're showing a great lack of understanding of Civil Rights movements in America. Not 100% of the African American citizens were united behind the struggle for Black Civil Rights. Not 100% of Women were united behind the struggle for Women's rights. Nor is it the case with Gay Americans. Possibly the Gay citizens you know don't respect you or themselves, I don't know. But PLEASE DON'T hold Gay Americans to a higher standard of conduct than you hold Str8 Americans. Str8 Americans currently have the special right of Marriage that only they get in all but 2 states. Are they 100% united in anything?
Posted by: Sargon Bighorn | November 10, 2008 at 06:54 PM
Oppps duh... we're well WITHIN our rights..... sorry
Posted by: Sargon Bighorn | November 10, 2008 at 06:55 PM
If you really want to make it fun, go donate blood while you are at it. Then watch the Blood Services throw away thousands of quarts of good blood just because, and then cry about a blood shortage.
I'm O-neg, and dd free, but they tell me it is a waste of their time every time I call to volunteer. Even after they put out a call for more blood.
But, according to the Fed rules, they still have to take it, even if they are going to throw it away.
Posted by: jon | November 10, 2008 at 07:08 PM
Without Prop 8 the term “marriage” is just “some relationship between some people". When government orders us all to believe that “marriage” includes every form of human sexual relationship, it in effect establishes a state religion which celebrates that no marriage is unique . . . . how does that benefit anyone?
We all agree the terms “heterosexuality”, “homosexuality” and “bisexuality” involve unique relationships. How does society benefit from suddenly ignoring those unique differences by using the same legal term, “marriage”, to define all human sexual relationships? We currently protect various defined races, ethnicities, etc., without ignoring their unique differences, why must it be different when we look to sexuality?
Gays are spitting on Latinos & Blacks and their right to Vote and be counted! Latino & Black cultures have lifted and improved our society - while self-centered whining Gays refuse to acknowledge the important role of Latinos and Blacks.
Posted by: roylmack | November 10, 2008 at 07:32 PM
We truly only have ourselves to blame. We have created a community that is divided. We are divided over issues like monogamous relationships vs. free-love relationships. Excessive Public Displays of Affection to raise awareness vs. private displays of affection with someone we care about. We are divided with regards to how homosexuals should be portrayed on TV and in movies. Should they be the closeted types or the flamboyant boys and butch gals? Should they be outspoken so that future generations may have the privileges we don't have today or allowed to live in peace enjoying what little normalcy society has already given us. Us or them...can we accept Bi's/trans/etc or should they remain outcasts within our community until they choose which camp they prefer. Has gay culture evolved when it carves out an exclusive pocket within a city to further segregate gays from the rest of the city or has it evolved when gay bars can be along any street and sandwiched between a sports bar and family restaurant? Then again, would we be willing to accept some of societies norms (no jerking or sucking someone off in a club) in order to take part in its other norms, like marriage?
We have only ourselves to blame, for as long as we are divided as a community, we will never be able to send a clear message to the rest of the world that gays are human too and not lesser humans. If you agree or disagree, please feel free to send me a message ( peniletent at Graffiti dot net ). I would be happy to discuss and exchange ideas.
Posted by: MFGrape | November 10, 2008 at 07:55 PM
People, this is a "Tempest in a Tea Cup" Much ado about NOTHING". The Mormons and Catholics really did themselves in this time, Prop. 8 will NEVER become an Amendment, because it is NOT FAIR, it segragates a portion of the States population..... an Amendment CAN NOT DO THAT in order to BECOME an AMENDMENT....... for Christ sake do you NELLIES ever phfriggin READ. It won't pass, don't matter it was voted on, it won't be a ban, and it will NEVER become an Amendment.... research people REQUIRES one to READ, the WHOLE TEXT, not just a line. Jesus
Posted by: John | November 10, 2008 at 11:18 PM
regardless of who is against it, or who is for it. its a basic right. blacks were denied to marry whites and if gay people were to vote to re enact that rule there would be a mob outcry of racism. i say keep fighting, ignore the "ignorant" people, and keep your chins up, it will happen!
Posted by: michael | November 11, 2008 at 12:30 AM
I voted No on Prop 8 but i do NOT approve of the Facist attempts by the Radical Gay Left to silence those who do not agree with them on this issue. It is obvious christians and mormons due their biblical faith are not going to support us. Deal with it! Instead of building bridges here, you are burning them down! I have spoken to many gay men who voted yes on prop 8 and for many reasons. Perhaps you should protest at your own bars! Better yet, why not protest the black churches and be intellectually honest with your protest. After all, the members of the black community voted over 70% for prop 8. Is this a double standard? Or are you scared to protest them? This politically correct bullshit has got to STOP!
You don't see Republicans rioting in the street when the biggest Socialist in American history was voted in as president did you? I doubt it would have been the same had McCain won. We'd probably still be putting out the fires. Stop being a sore looser and look at the statistics and find out where you lost. Work to build bridges in those areas and keep trying for equality, it will come. You defeat the purpose when you spit in the face of others and will NEVER achieve your goals that way!
If you have any intellectual honesty, you will do your own research and discover that McCain voters had a higher number who voted against Prop 8 than Obama supporters. Maybe if your honest enough to recognize that, perhaps you'll stop drinking the Democratic Koolaid that has inebriated you and blinded your ability to think for yourself and vote according to more than one issue that's obviously not on the agenda by either party.
Posted by: Doyle | November 11, 2008 at 12:35 AM
The reason Prop 8 passed is because California wants to keep its divorce rate at 50% or below. If the gays marry, the divorce rate will go well over the 50% mark. Think of your past relationships and IF you did marry, how would you have affected the divorce rate.
Posted by: Paul | November 11, 2008 at 05:01 AM
Roylmack,
Bud you must be kidding. First of all you should know there are a number of religions that support same-sex marriage and have a history of performing same-sex marriages. Wicca/Paganism, The United Church, a number of First Nations belief systems, and some liberal/reform Jewish synagogues.
Asside from denying queer people the same rights as everyone else. In essence what California and a number of other States have done is refuse these religions the right to practice their beliefs.
In reality because the State has a legal union between two people called marriage the states definition of marriage should have no religious connotations because there is a separation of church and state (the U.S.A is not a Theocracy). So if the State changes it's definition of marriage it in no way effects religious marriage or forces those religions to recognize it's change. Religions have the right to preach that gay people are evil (in the U.S. at least) does the state? NO. Does that mean the state is imposing this on these religions? As far as I know the Catholic, Mormon, and Evangelical churches are doing alright.
I'm not sure where you get off making a statement that ALL gay people are spitting on the Latino and Black communities - first off Queer people are global not just in the USA or California - we get along fine with our Latino and Black communities just fine up in Toronto thank you very much. There are also many many black and latino people who are also queer (I find it highly suspect that they would spit on themselves).
Have there been some bigots on these threads who have bashed the Black and Latino community, sure. But I'm sure you will find people in either of those communities bashing queer people and acting equally as bigoted. Lets not lump all of a people together simply because of a few ignorant assholes. Rise above it.
Posted by: roylmack | November 11, 2008 at 06:20 AM
ShyBi: Fuck the "majority" on this one. The "majority" was for slavery, segregation, the ban on interracial marriages, and so on. America is a backwards country filled with backwards people.
Posted by: KT Domino | November 11, 2008 at 09:42 AM
The ignorance among our own is profound.
Gays that believe majority trumps rights, that religion can interfere with the state, that odd ball examples of teachers stepping outside of school policy is sanctioned.
Many of us did not have proper role models due to the current social state of our nation, and now bitterly reject participation in equal rights. An understandable effect of disenfranchisement, but not an excuse for counter-productive ignorance and subversion.
Its time to slap a fag and wake them up.
Posted by: ANDY | November 11, 2008 at 10:45 AM
This is a site that is asking for signatures to revoke the 501c3 status of the LDS Church for their involvement in the Prop 8 campaign in CA.
In this country, you can be a church. You can be a political action committee. You cannot be both. The Mormon Church stands in direct defiance of the spirit of our laws by actively campaigning to change California law. The United Kingdom has already moved to strip the church of its tax-exempt status.
http://www.mormonsstoleourrights.com/
Posted by: Tom | November 11, 2008 at 10:55 AM
some issues should NEVER even be on the ballot...and that includes any issue that discriminates...period. The state (meaning any level of gov't) should NEVER allow the majority to discriminate against a minority. the core function of the state is to protect its citizens...even from one another. this is a failure of the state for even allowing this measure to come to a vote.
i happen to be black AND gay (yes black churches, we do exist!). faithful black people did overwhelmingly support prop 8, but it's important to also understand that many of those blacks are also elderly, a demographic that overwhelmingly supported prop 8 regardless of race. so this 70% of blacks that supported prop 8 should be considered in that context.
having said that, i want to personally add that the fight of gays to attain equal rights IS parallel to the racial civil rights struggle. i know that blacks don;t want to hear that and don't identify with gays, but fuck em. it's time for blacks to finally get the fact that their struggle is the antecedent to the gay struggle. frankly, because i'm only 39, i've experienced more discrimination as a gay man than i have as a black man.
i went to a very bigoted church throughout my adolescence and finally left the church altogether when i was 21. i had a hell of a time excepting myself as gay directly because of all the bullshit hateful teachings of black churches. i know who i am now...and those hate mongers in the black church have forgotten where they came from. if they expect me to hide so they can save face, they can kiss my black ass!
anyway, religious blacks need to get their heads out of their asses and finally get it! gays are your brothers and sisters in this great struggle. the more you push gays down, the more you hurt the black community as a whole...and the more you thwart the progress of american society.
finally, you can take your "love the sinner, hate the sin" rhetoric and shove it up your asses! faithful people must understand once and for all that gays are born gay...period. you don't have to agree, you just have to accept it as a fact and treat gays accordingly. you must also realize that your beliefs are just that...YOURS. you may apply your beliefs to your own lives, but never to mine.
i've had it! america is one of only a few industrial societies that's still fuckin around with this issue. get over it already!
Posted by: dg | November 13, 2008 at 10:07 AM
Attention:
Here is a listing of People whom Donations to Mormons for Prop 8.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pe2023SzWXxE8wYX5qWeoIw
Please check your state and city and call or write the people from the list and tell then you will not be patronizing their business. Because of there support to Prop 8. You will have to do a google search but you will be able to find their address, and phone numbers.
If anyone know how to get this list to the http://www.antigayblacklist.com please do so. Thank you
Posted by: Tom | November 13, 2008 at 11:59 AM
We need to start another Stonewall revolution.
Posted by: Rick123 | November 14, 2008 at 02:01 PM
It is understood that not all in the LGBT community are for marriage, but we are not asking you to marry. All that is asked is, if you care for those around you, support them in their decisions, because they would do the same for you.
My partner and I are not ready to get married, but we would like the choice to do so in the future. Help us and the many other couples with your support in attending the rallies tomorrow.
Thank you.
Posted by: HappyHiker | November 14, 2008 at 02:41 PM
I have an idea. How about waiting to see if Obama will have changed his mind on gay marriage. If he still believes that "marriage" is between a man and a woman, cast your vote for the Libertarian, or the Green party. At least your vote will count, and you won't feel guilty the next time around because, by then, there's already a black president.
But in the meantime, why not make your own personal protest, by not doing business with those who are against 'gay marriage'. Money talks, right?
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Posted by: johnlucky | November 14, 2008 at 08:08 PM
Until brain-dead morons figure it out in the so-called "gay community" (what a joke) they will never be able to "marry." Using the word "marriage" is arrogant and selfish and takes away from long-established religious systems. It's very similar to a culture being upset that newcomers arrive and demand the same ancient traditions be theirs. If "marriage" was changed the label to "civil union" it would be much more accepted. Until that time, as long as arrogant gays continue to NOT THINK about how much fear and misunderstanding they create in how they are perceived, the more they protest and get indignant the more resistance and the more they move backwards several decades and invite trouble. I'm gay, and I think the majority of the "gay movement" is self destructive and incredibly socially inept.
Posted by: The Label | November 14, 2008 at 08:52 PM
I agree that they have no right to take away constitutional right and it is time a lobbyist coalition went to Washington and petition the government to bring a bill into play to pass full gay rights for the entire population of gays. None of this civil union garbage either, but full marriage and equality rights across the board for all in the gay community.
Posted by: Doug | November 14, 2008 at 09:02 PM
I agree with the guy that you can call it marriage, people complain that it is then involving religion, and that is only true if you choose to involve it with religion. religious marriage and legal marriage isn't the same anyway, so why would one force it to be? Also, if you're living in California, you can go ahead and help our friends and allies there, but rallying for a political issue in California when you are not there and not going to influence people who can make the difference is useless. Rallying for a greater national cause is perhaps what your efforts should be put to. Bitching out a state you don't live in is not exactly the best use of one's time.
Posted by: Lou | November 14, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Attention:
Here is a listing of People whom Donations to Mormons for Prop 8.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pe2023SzWXxE8wYX5qWeoIw
Please check your state and city and call or write the people from the list and tell then you will not be patronizing their business. Because of there support to Prop 8. You will have to do a google search but you will be able to find their address, and phone numbers.
Posted by: Tom | November 15, 2008 at 07:09 AM
I'm gay and support neither side of this issue. There's far more important things to be dealing with and worrying about, in my opinion. I'm happy with the rights I have intact already, and there's "ways" around everything else.
Posted by: Doubtfully Alone | November 15, 2008 at 08:08 AM
Meanwhile, I will be spending my free time volunteering a the Utah AIDS Center, sorting food at the local food bank, and yes, even volunteering at the Mormon diary that provides food for families in need.
Posted by: blah | November 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM
Posted by: Scott | November 10, 2008 at 04:25 PM
Well said.
Posted by: HT | November 15, 2008 at 11:40 AM
I don't get it. why?
isn't civil union enough? Even Elton John made a statement claiming it is enough. Who has the time to protest? I have to work. The economy is a mess. Don't we have bigger problems to deal with then the word "marriage".
I just think this is a waste of time.
We need to focus on priorities right now. Economy, war, people loosing their homes and people who's homes are burning down!
Posted by: Lizzie | November 15, 2008 at 12:03 PM
if i were an american i would want to leave my country right now cause i would not be equal.living in canada im so lucky we had a liberal prime minister in the 70s that put in our charter of rights and freedoms equal rights for all gay and lesbian people.i would love to invite all gay americans to come live with us in canada we have had gay marriiges for 4 yrs now and the world has not come to an end. keep up your fight!
Posted by: gary shelton | November 15, 2008 at 12:44 PM
The radical gay folks are going to make this 10 year effort into a 50 year one by stomping on toes instead of dealing with it subtly ... by expanding our already widespread acceptance by society in general.
Way to go. Let's bomb a couple churches and throw pink glitter all over some right-wing morons. Sure way to make us seem like irrational, hateful people.
The very few will wreck any chance of progress for the rest of us for decades.
Nice job idiots.
Posted by: Marty in Kzo | November 15, 2008 at 10:45 PM
get a life and move on
Posted by: philthy12 | November 16, 2008 at 12:09 PM
I knew looking this story up would be a hoot. Thanks for proving me right!
Posted by: this subject is stupid | November 16, 2008 at 05:01 PM
It's Bad, but it is not the end of the world or the fight for equal rights. No, I'm not going to marry a man any time in the near future,at least in California, but it would be nice to have that option if I was so inclined.
It was not so long ago that a woman could not vote or a Black person could not MARRY a white person. This fight just has to be fought like any other.
I want to know what those propagandist actors who portayed concerned Parents who did not want their children told that other same sex parents were not as good as them. What will they tell their gay child when they tell them,"Mom and Dad, I'm gay"???
I am glad there is such an outreach to overturn Prop 8 and I hope and I am sure it will be sucessful. It is only right.
My fear is that the more outrageous behavior that takes place as the issue continues to be as heated as it is, may have a reverse effect and only make things worse, and bring out more people, who prior to this current issue were "gay neutral" and start to think that maybe they were wrong.
Don't get me wrong . I have been to some of the recent rallies in Sacramento, and I think the point is being made that YES on prop 8 was wrong and will be overturned.
This is our time! Speak out as you wish for the issue at hand, but be careful not to alienate the people that have supported you all along... Don't worry we'll get there!
Posted by: sneakers | November 16, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Can't we just get this whole EQUALITY thing over with?
The National Equality Tax Protest ~ Wednesday, April 15th, 2009
Posted by: John Bisceglia | November 17, 2008 at 02:42 AM
this country is full of shit and the ones that voted for prop 8 are most likely the same men that cheat on their wives with other men or want to have sex with a man but they are so closeted that they just go dumb ass shit and arnold shcwarznegger is a joke of a gov er na i would like to give ashton kuthcher head and ryan philleppe too and anyhow leys have a riot
Posted by: living in ameriKKKa | November 17, 2008 at 10:35 AM
I have to say as a registered voter I am shocked by how those who oppose have gone as low as listing everyone who donated and calling for a boycott.
You could help eliminate the idea of "confidential" vote and the idea of supporting an issue.
I voted yes. You voted no. Why should someone who did support or donated be part of a smear campaign to "punish" those who didn't agree with you. This is not high school. You stole my boyfriend (looking at it from the ladies side), so I am going to tell all my friends not to talk to you if they want to remain in my girlfriends clique.
I think trying to tie it in any way to Racial Civil Rights is also wrong. This is not an issue of race, gender, or beliefs. It is only DEFINING Marriage in the Constituion. You still can use Domestic Partnership or Civil Union.
If you are being DENIED all the same rights, then come up with your own prop that says if you don't qualify that you can if you "INSERT WHAT WOULD BE THE CHOICE(S) FOR YOUR TERM".
I would not only vote for it, I would openly support it, including putting signs up all over my car, home, work, etc. I would help put them out in my city. I would even donate.
This is not a case of saying you are second class citizens. I think that is yet another low ball tactic to make everyone believe that the prop is treating your community as in-human. The protesters who on T.V. who make it sound like we don't consider them worthy, or shouldn't be alive, etc is getting a little too extreme.
Why can't your feelings against the prop keep to the true facts and don't use words like "civil rights", violating "human rights", want to get rid of you, etc. Remember that is for during a campaign. Now that it is over lets all focus on the truth and not over play the real meaning of the law, PLEASE!
I am disappointed at how the negative tone is being so heavily pushed or supported by those in your community.
Did you know there are calls on the other side to pull the same tactics of calling for boycotts against those don't support prop 8, including letting business know they have lost business or that employee x voted, donated or supported the No on 8 campaign. Ironically the response from others where I read about said NO! They said why stoop to such levels of revenge, you took this so I am going tell others to stop talking to you. Most have said this is not fair to take that kind of action, even though the other group (those opposed to prop 8) are going that low.
Also it is not "8ate". Does anywhere in the prop that says it hates you. I didn't see anywhere. It is strictly defining the term "marriage" just as we classify terms in contracts, from Leasee and Leasor or "preferred class". That doesn't discriminate it only defines the information so one knows where they come into the picture.
I will be happy to join a dialog but not if I have to fear you coming after me with the threats, calling employers, etc. Lets have a civil and grownup debate. That is how it should be.
Posted by: The ostercized Voter (sorry on sp?) | December 09, 2008 at 02:55 PM